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SEO Practitioners who sell MY Knowledge suck!
By JVRudnick | March 15, 2010
We still do the “forum” thingy, eh! You know where you go to a forum for years and work hard at establishing both credibility and reputation as you pass along what you know for free. Programming forums, SEO forums – whatever…you work hard at trying to help newbies and juniors to climb the ranks of forum users up into the mindset where they realize that hey, maybe they should be paying back too, eh? This I think is the real strength of forums and helps all the folks in any profession!
And, lemee tell you when it comes to being an SEO type that can handle the vast number of duplicate newbie questions that’s’ one thing. You know what I mean…the same question on the same topics over and over from another brand new poster….we all get them and that’s a part of forum life.
- META keywords? Gosh, a quick search here would outline what all SEO practitioners know, eh?
- <title> is just how important to an on-page optimization? Did you search for that here or even on Google to try help your clients?
- PR is the thing to try to get as high as you can, so where do I go to get a PR of 9? Huh? PR means nothing to an SEO campaign….so what are you even talking about?
- Automatic subs to directories, that’s primo help for an SEO campaign, right? Good golly you newbie, did you think to check on that here in the forum by doing a search maybe?
- DMOZ wont’ list my site or my clients site…howcum? And a DMOZ link is also primo, right? Did you even bother to do any research on that directory on your own first?
And that’s about the first few items that we all get in SEO forums, queries that for the most part are out-of-date and out-of-the-running for anyone who wants to run a valid successful SEO campaign for themselves or for clients. This one needs to get used to in forum lifestyles I think we’d all agree….
But that’s not the biggest part of the whole forum lifestyle that I’ve seen develop greatly over the past say 18 months or so….it’s people who ADVERTISE on their own website that they’re competent, reliable, knowledgeable SEO practitioners – and then they come to our forums and ask questions just like what’s above, eh!
Yup, that’s right. Most forums allow you to add to your Profile, your own website and I’ve taken to always search every newbies sites to see “who they are” and what they “say they know”. Many many are from offshore and even more of them have yup, fully couched, perfectly copy written SEO pages that prove to every visitor, they KNOW what they’re doing when it comes to SEO!
AND THAT PISSES ME OFF, EH!
If you know so much, then why do you come to our SEO forum to ask what anyone with even like 6 months of SEO experience would KNOW is bullshit?
Who did you talk to to learn these “facts” about SEO and why do you come to forums spouting off that ‘everyone knows’ that directories give great link juice (when you asked only yesterday as to the definition of that very term!)?
Why do you think that we, SEO practitioners who know how to be professional and yes are willing to help teach new folks to our profession on the best practices of same will help you fraudsters, you scammers, you snake-oil salesmen to succeed?
Why do you complain bitterly that you can’t add a sig for some backlink juice till you hit a certain number of posts – and all of them are defending use of META keywords…sigh!
You’ve all got some gall, eh, i.e. trying to sell my knowledge instead of your own!!!!
If you think that such knowledge will ever be passed on by me – or any of the other long time SEO forum members who’ve proved they’re there to help, then you’ve got another think coming!
I hate this segment of SEO practitioners, even though it’s a small fragment of us all, that expects to be able to sell a skill without having learned it first….god forbid that they actually get any clients….and if they do, then please please I hope that they’re in the exact same channels as our own!
Idiots, eh!
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Posted on 15 March 2010 by J Rudnick
Jim is a veteran Hamilton based SEO search engine optimization specialist in Canadian SEO circles!
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March 15th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
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March 15th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
I love forums like DigitalPointless as they are the places I want my competitors to go to to get their SEO advice!
March 20th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Ah nice quality rant! Love it!
March 21st, 2010 at 11:27 pm
If you don't want to help people on forums, then don't go on forums.
The whole point of an open access forum is for people of all skill levels to share and learn.. not for a single member to decide who is or isn't deserving of knowledge.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
I can't tell you how many people I've seen start up their own “internet marketing site” because it looks like a good way to make money. SAD. These people don't even hardly know what marketing is online, let alone are qualified to teach it. It's extra fun when bad information gets spread around, and I have to explain (not so nicely half the time) how wrong the info really is.
Awesome post though, I feel your pain!
April 20th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
I absolutely LOVE your site. Can't tell you the number of times we've been called in after the fact to clean up after someone robbed a client of their money and didn't do shit. “Oh, but they said they were going to submit us on 100 search Engines.” Yeah – name more than 5. “Oh, they said an all Flash site wouldn't affect our rankings” Dear lord. We too, feel your pain.